John Heilemann talks with Alyssa Mastromonaco and Dan Pfeiffer, former senior advisers to Barack Obama, about their initial reactions to the U.S. Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. Dan also talks to John about why and how he thinks Republicans would go even further if they win control of Congress, and what Democrats' next move should be. Tune in to the full podcast to hear more about impact of the January 6 committee's hearings, Matthew McConaughey's emotional remarks at the White House about the Uvalde school massacre, and Dan’s new book, “Battling the Big Lie: How Fox, Facebook, and the MAGA Media Are Destroying America.”