John Heilemann talks with Alexander Burns and Jonathan Martin, national political correspondents for the New York Times and authors of the newsmaking account of the 2020 election This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America’s Future. Heilemann, Burns, and Martin discuss revelations in their book about the chaotic days following the attack on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, including secret audio recordings of House minority leader Kevin McCarthy telling colleagues that he planned to urge President Trump to resign; the disdain for Trump among GOP stalwarts such as Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell; why the moment in which Republicans seemed determined to purge Trump from the party proved so fleeting; and the tenuous relationship between Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. They also unpack the stunning leak of a draft opinion suggesting that the Supreme Court is on the verge of overturning Roe v. Wade.
