In the late 90s, Kara Swisher moved to Silicon Valley and quickly became the most influential journalist in tech. In this segment of Hell & High Water, Swisher talks with John Heilemann about the glaring lack of diversity she encountered in the Valley and what it was like to be one of the few openly gay women working there. She reflects on her experience discovering that tech bros “like lesbians,” which may have actually helped her gain access to their rarefied world. Swisher also asks John Heilemann to share his perspective working as a male journalist in Silicon Valley around the same time.
Watch the full episode on The Recount's Youtube channel to see Kara Swisher and John Heilemann discuss Spotify’s handling of the Joe Rogan controversy, how the pandemic has shifted the tech landscape, the recent stock plunge that erased more than $200 billion from the market value of Meta, and what to make of two of the most powerful — and maddening — hyper-capitalists of the age: Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.